Comments on: My Web 2.0 Poke, “A Gushing Piece of Love” http://smashingred.com/blog/miscellanea/my-web-20-poke-a-gushing-piece-of-love/ Jay Gilmore on Websites and Marketing for Small Business. Sun, 05 Feb 2012 06:37:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Ben Tremblay http://smashingred.com/blog/miscellanea/my-web-20-poke-a-gushing-piece-of-love/#comment-166 Ben Tremblay Thu, 20 Jul 2006 02:40:38 +0000 http://smashingred.com/blog/2006/07/10/my-web-20-poke-a-gushing-piece-of-love/#comment-166 I've been running into a lot of this today ... it leaves me feeling irritated. Can we define "nice" or "fun" precisely? Probably ... but philosophizing would certainly wouldn't be much fun, and I don't know what's nice about making such an effort. I often find that people who are rabidly against relativism to an equal degree reductionist and mechanistic. Do you really not have any sense of what's intended by "Web2.0"? Betcha do. As someone who used Lynx (gopher and telnet?) you know what the transition to Web1.0 was like. Mosaic and Netscape (even 0.72a) was the birth of something new. But did that exhaust the possibilities? Hardly. I say that my mozdawg.blogspot is Web1.0, even though I (finally) got CSS to do what I had been doing with tables. Does CSS and DHTML exhaust Web1.0? I know what I mean when I say that the design I've used on that blog is Web1.0 ... and I know what I mean when I say I'm working on a truly Web2.0 design for my new homepage, irrespective of arguments about whether it's AsynchronousJAX or SynchronousJAX. Dunno Jay, I'm as averse to spin as any, and more than most (I say I got out of IT when rainbow colored smoke took over ... poisonous .... sort of similar to the way click-fraud is polluting things today.) but this seems close to cynical, and that's no antidote. How about this: because it involves user experience (like the choice of feed-reader?), all what "cognitive ergonomics" grapples with, I think it escapes exhaustive quantification. And yet it can be described, or at least depicted. (BTW this is the problem I'm working on in public policy: how our discourse has come to be wrecked by jingoistic reaction against post-modernism.) *Phew! Time for a walk in the evening air!* I’ve been running into a lot of this today … it leaves me feeling irritated. Can we define “nice” or “fun” precisely? Probably … but philosophizing would certainly wouldn’t be much fun, and I don’t know what’s nice about making such an effort.

I often find that people who are rabidly against relativism to an equal degree reductionist and mechanistic.

Do you really not have any sense of what’s intended by “Web2.0″? Betcha do. As someone who used Lynx (gopher and telnet?) you know what the transition to Web1.0 was like. Mosaic and Netscape (even 0.72a) was the birth of something new. But did that exhaust the possibilities? Hardly.

I say that my mozdawg.blogspot is Web1.0, even though I (finally) got CSS to do what I had been doing with tables. Does CSS and DHTML exhaust Web1.0? I know what I mean when I say that the design I’ve used on that blog is Web1.0 … and I know what I mean when I say I’m working on a truly Web2.0 design for my new homepage, irrespective of arguments about whether it’s AsynchronousJAX or SynchronousJAX.

Dunno Jay, I’m as averse to spin as any, and more than most (I say I got out of IT when rainbow colored smoke took over … poisonous …. sort of similar to the way click-fraud is polluting things today.) but this seems close to cynical, and that’s no antidote.

How about this: because it involves user experience (like the choice of feed-reader?), all what “cognitive ergonomics” grapples with, I think it escapes exhaustive quantification. And yet it can be described, or at least depicted. (BTW this is the problem I’m working on in public policy: how our discourse has come to be wrecked by jingoistic reaction against post-modernism.)

*Phew! Time for a walk in the evening air!*

]]> By: Jay Gilmore http://smashingred.com/blog/miscellanea/my-web-20-poke-a-gushing-piece-of-love/#comment-114 Jay Gilmore Tue, 11 Jul 2006 02:27:00 +0000 http://smashingred.com/blog/2006/07/10/my-web-20-poke-a-gushing-piece-of-love/#comment-114 Skeptic, I wasn't at all offended. It just made me have to check my point of view. It actually was a benefit. It made me really think about some of the reasons I have such an issue with such mantra like adoption of terms. On the point of the blog trail: it is fairly common to see this type of thing. I guess the issue is that all to many people, myself included, chime in on subjects for which they have an underdeveloped opinion. But for many people, myself included again, we post on subjects that we wish to share with their visitors. Skeptic,

I wasn’t at all offended. It just made me have to check my point of view. It actually was a benefit. It made me really think about some of the reasons I have such an issue with such mantra like adoption of terms.

On the point of the blog trail: it is fairly common to see this type of thing. I guess the issue is that all to many people, myself included, chime in on subjects for which they have an underdeveloped opinion. But for many people, myself included again, we post on subjects that we wish to share with their visitors.

]]> By: Skeptic http://smashingred.com/blog/miscellanea/my-web-20-poke-a-gushing-piece-of-love/#comment-113 Skeptic Tue, 11 Jul 2006 01:36:31 +0000 http://smashingred.com/blog/2006/07/10/my-web-20-poke-a-gushing-piece-of-love/#comment-113 Hmm. I think you misunderstood my comment. I was not criticizing you for not liking a Web 2.0 thing, I was calling out the fact that there was this awful 'blog trail' going on with each step not really adding all that much value. I think we are actually quite like-minded in our 2.0 thinking! Sorry if my posting sounded otherwise... Hmm. I think you misunderstood my comment. I was not criticizing you for not liking a Web 2.0 thing, I was calling out the fact that there was this awful ‘blog trail’ going on with each step not really adding all that much value.

I think we are actually quite like-minded in our 2.0 thinking! Sorry if my posting sounded otherwise…

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